firstly, my apologies for all the posts i've written over the past few weeks asking for help with all the issues that come with leaving the wt.
i realize i am all "take" and no "give" at this point, but i'll pay it forward at some later date, i promise!
so, as the title of this thread suggests, i'm fading fast....more disappearing than fading really.
what complicates this is that my husband KNOWS this is not the truth, but hasn't decided yet if he will stay in for the family benefits or opt out like me. so it puts me in an even harder spot as far as how i word things with the relatives.
Get them to read this:
But whatever you do don't turn your back on the Bible or think that all churches of "Christendom" are the work of the devil, because they aren't.
i've recently been invited to attend an alpha course at my local baptist church and for the last 2 weeks i've gone along.
its all been very amiable and pleasant until this week.
the subject was "why and how should i pray?
i've recently been invited to attend an alpha course at my local baptist church and for the last 2 weeks i've gone along.
its all been very amiable and pleasant until this week.
the subject was "why and how should i pray?
Explain to me why the accident of your birthplace defines your religion?
It doesn't define your religion. If that were true there would never be conversions. Paul was born a Jew but converted to Christianity. There are plenty of Iraqi Christians that prove your premise wrong.
JD II
i've recently been invited to attend an alpha course at my local baptist church and for the last 2 weeks i've gone along.
its all been very amiable and pleasant until this week.
the subject was "why and how should i pray?
jonathan dough-for-brains
I believe this forum is open to anyone
leaving aside your statement of the obvious, can you answer my question please.
Explain to me why the accident of your birthplace defines your religion?
I'll do better than that. "Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation."
Roman Catholic Cathechism at p. 244 section 847.
"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims;..." (ibid., p. 242, section 841).
Leaves no room for atheists.
http://144000.110mb.com/trinity/index-5.html#20
JD II
i've recently been invited to attend an alpha course at my local baptist church and for the last 2 weeks i've gone along.
its all been very amiable and pleasant until this week.
the subject was "why and how should i pray?
let me see - you are posting on an ex-Jehovah's Witness forum,
I believe this forum is open to anyone.
i've recently been invited to attend an alpha course at my local baptist church and for the last 2 weeks i've gone along.
its all been very amiable and pleasant until this week.
the subject was "why and how should i pray?
Where did I say I hated God?
I wasn't referring to you but others since you obviously don't believe in God. Hence, the plural. You fell into the first category of atheists.
how do you explain God sending bears out of the woods to gore some children who'd made fun of someone? Not quite so loving, eh?
Bears in the woods? Why stop there? He's going to vanquish mankind at Armagedon, children included. Those are the rules and that's His perogative, regardless of how distastefull you find it. You can still love your child who is a serial killer and recognize the need for him to be put to death.
But, any REAL loving father would make real, obvious contact if he really loved his children.
Obvious contact? Why should He if you don't love Him or even acknowledge His existence?
i've recently been invited to attend an alpha course at my local baptist church and for the last 2 weeks i've gone along.
its all been very amiable and pleasant until this week.
the subject was "why and how should i pray?
If he's someone else, the onus is on HIM to make it completely obvious he's there.
A bit presumptous. Who are you to make demands on Him? Who are you? He doesn't want to be with people who don't want to be with Him. The fact that you don't believe in Him is irrelevant in the end because you atheists and God-haters will be dragged kicking and screaming before Him in the end to account for your ways. You have no choice in the matter. And just to clarify one thing: Just because He allows bad things happen doesn't mean he "condones" it. He's not pardoning it, forgiving it or overlooking it. He'll deal with it all in due time. You're on notice.
Now, go ahead and flame me.
i've recently been invited to attend an alpha course at my local baptist church and for the last 2 weeks i've gone along.
its all been very amiable and pleasant until this week.
the subject was "why and how should i pray?
Can you identify the 'He' you are referring to please.
Take a wild guess.
if you were to give a brief description of what you know already of this organization, how would you define it yourself ?.
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my definition would be a an exploitive and manipulating free wheeling religious publishing company.. i might add none of this would have been at all possible without the freedom of religion policy of the united states.. it very well started out that way and continues to this very day.. intellectually dishonest but very commercial in its intension.. .
Cruel.
i've recently been invited to attend an alpha course at my local baptist church and for the last 2 weeks i've gone along.
its all been very amiable and pleasant until this week.
the subject was "why and how should i pray?
I see no real evidence out there for God. I would love to be proved wrong and am waiting for God to reveal himself (but I think I'll be waiting a long time).
Oh, for crying out loud. Not you, too? What is it with you exJws? You go from one dangerous extreme to the other. You're better off as a JW. By the time He does reveal himself it might be too late for you to do anything about it.
